Archives: October 2005

Sat Oct 29, 2005

Virginia's Kind Words

Find the articles mentioned here and elsewhere in the blog in various links found on the website by entering my archives on those various links...in the Politics Resource Center, Israel Hasbara Committee, American Daily, Israel Insider, Mideast Truth, Israel National News/Arutz Sheva, the Raphi, Kurdish Media, Jewish XPress, etc...


----- Original Message -----

From: alex

To: honigman6@msn.com

Cc: letters@americandaily.com

Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2005 12:01 PM

Subject: American Daily column feedback


Dear Mr. Honigman:


I am familiar with some of your articles from Israel Insider, and I have to admit you are one of my favorite authors. I have used some of the very same arguments to defend Israel on various forums and chat rooms.


Your deep knowledge of Middle East history is what sets you apart from the vast majority of today’s mainstream journalists and columnists in the mainstream media. Unlike most of their opinions, yours are based on historic facts.


With most of the mainstream media presenting a one-sided, pro-Arab coverage of the Arab-Israeli conflict, with horrendous inaccuracies and omissions, we need you more than ever, Mr. Honigman. Repeating the same arguments over and over again may seem redundant, but is absolutely necessary to make a compelling and eloquent case for Israel - something you have managed to do countless times.


Your work inspires many pro-Israel activists and sympathizers, on and off campus (myself included), to go on with the struggle for Israel’s cause. You are a brilliant man and I deeply admire your work. Please keep it up, and tell the story over and over and over again.


Respectfully,


Alex M.

Richmond, VA

Posted by: Jerry on Oct 29, 05 | 9:45 pm | Profile

[0] Trackbacks   [0] Pingbacks

Check out response from Thailand...

----- Original Message -----

From: ho chi

To: michnews@michnews.com

Sent: Friday, October 28, 2005 1:41 AM

Subject: Short, (The Hell With) Sweet, And To The Point


To: michnews@michnews.com


Subject: MichNews.com: Contact Us


Short, (The Hell With) Sweet, And To The Point

By Gerald A. Honigman
MichNews.com
Oct 28, 2005


Sirs;

Regarding the above mentioned article.  It isn’t just the Israelis that need to rethink their response methodology.  It’s certainly the U.S. as well, and a good part of Europe.  There is absolutely no reason for us to build that club fed, at Guantanamo when a tent city with a plate of rice twice a day .… or less, would have been just fine.  As to the reports of the security teams there being the recipient of thrown feces, urine etc etc, let me say that a good clubbing will do wonders to a deviant attitude.  I doubt it would have to be applied more than twice in the wo rst of situations.  It can be a tremendous teaching tool.


They act like animals, treat them as such.  And to ever let them go would be folly.  We would just have to go in and get them again.  I am giving you a para from a book which I believe spells out quite clearly a proper way of dealing with these people.  I would not have to be used often.  Word would get out, and when they realized that the Americans were no longer the pansies that we had led everyone to believe the nonsense would quickly end. 


In a 1988 novel, “The Terrorist Killers”
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/1555472699/steinede-20/102-3002789-3048167, the protagonist says, “Extreme evil requires extreme justice. I am here to tell you that no terrorist anywhere in the world is safe from us. We will find you wherever you hide. Anyone who aids terrorist shall be treated as a terrorist. Any fool who commits an act of terrorism from this moment forward will be signing the death warrant of his parents, wife, and children. Towns that harbor terrorists will have their police chiefs and mayors assassinated and court houses destroyed. Henceforth, terrorism is forbidden by order of International Terrorist Suppressors.”

Regards


Lynn M. M.
Tucson, AZ
Bangkok, Thailand

Posted by: Jerry on Oct 29, 05 | 8:02 am | Profile

[0] Trackbacks   [0] Pingbacks

The Hell With Sweet...

Guest Commentary

Short, (The Hell With) Sweet, And To The Point

By Gerald A. Honigman

www.MichNews.com

Oct 28, 2005


So the Jews’ military intelligence served them well again as they located yet another of the Arab butchers’ leaders...and their common sense, as has happened too often in the past, went AWOL.


On the heels of dozens of more innocent Israelis deliberately murdered and maimed by the allegedly moderate Mahmoud Abbas’ brethren (folks whom he refuses to deal with effectively as the roadmap demands), Israel launched its long overdue counterpunch.


Arabs believe that they should be allowed to murder Jews at will, and if the latter dare to pursue them afterwards, this then becomes the next excuse to murder again. This is precisely what happened recently, after Israel nailed yet another of the disembowelers of babes, grandmas, and the like--setting off the recent Israeli raid.


But sadly, once again, the Jews have blown it.


How many times does it take for them to learn?


Israel has no death sentence in its justice system. Stupid mistake, and don’t spout the moronic liberal manure excusing this. I’ve heard it all...dumber than dumb. We’re not looking to score Brownie points on a hypothetical scale of relative ethics and morality here. We’re talking about how, realistically, to deal with beings lower than animals who deliberately target the most innocent for the cruelest of deaths.


The Jews habitually capture their murderers, then have to feed and house them at their own expense for years.


Worse yet, they also habitually wind up releasing them...to once again blow up more Jews. The bomber who just blew up folks at a falafel stand had been released from jail about one month earlier--and largely to appease the American State Department’s Arabist Chamberlains’ perpetual quest for largely one-sided Israeli concessions.


The Arabs laugh their derrieres off at this. I don’t blame them. It is pathetic.


The time for Jews playing the “I won’t stoop to your level” game must end.


While I don’t advocate blowing Arabs up in restaurants or on buses, taking these armed heroes alive once they have been cornered--as Israel has once again now done--is only counterproductive and suicidal.


When these folks are located, they must be eliminated...pure and simple. They’re usually armed, so now they’ll have to deal with fighting armed Jews--unlike the ones they usually target.


I’ve been nice up until now. So…


What I really would also like to suggest is that the Jews immerse their bullets and such in pig blood before such special “events.” I don’t know if this would matter much to the jihadists or not...but it couldn’t hurt, as long as this was well publicized in Arabic. I saw something about this before. Admittedly, however, I haven’t looked into this fantasy enough yet.


Back to reality, America has a death sentence not only for murderers, but also for their accomplices.


Those targeting Israel want to kill both Jews as individuals and their State. Abbas and his fellow Arafatians are no different than Islamic Jihad and Hamas in this regard. Both groups call for the destruction of Israel and turn the terror on and off at will. They differ only on tactics. The Abbas crew worries about public relations more...that’s all.


There will be times when such prisoners must be taken alive to get information from them. Afterwards, they too must be eliminated...one way or another. Up until now, they too often have simply been released later on at absolutely no gain for the Jews. Indeed, too often they have rewarded the latters’ attempt to “do it better” by butchering their children yet again.


If Israel had a death penalty and really put it into use, then there could be another alternative. But it doesn’t.


So it’s time for the Jew of the Nations to act the same way its Arab neighbors--or the United States--would act with folks committing similar crimes...no worse, but no better either.


Nice guys finish last...especially when there are at least two hundred million of the enemy and five million of yourselves in the game.


Copyright by Gerald A. Honigman, honigman6@msn.com


Copyright © MichNews.com. All Rights Reserved.

Posted by: Jerry on Oct 29, 05 | 3:01 am | Profile

[0] Trackbacks   [0] Pingbacks

Mon Oct 24, 2005

My article on Sean Hannity's ABC radio show, 4/14/05

Sean Hannity Discussion > Discussion Topics > America at War


Justice: For Arabs Only?

Register
FAQ
Members List
Calendar
Search
Today’s Posts
Mark Forums Read

Byzantine Justice: For Arabs Only? 12 Hours Ago, 09:34 AM


Long Island Bob Re: Justice: For Arabs Only? 12 Hours Ago, 09:59 AM


kenpoman Re: Justice: For Arabs Only? 11 Hours Ago, 10:11 AM


Jíbaro Re: Justice: For Arabs Only? 11 Hours Ago, 10:15 AM


gman Re: Justice: For Arabs Only? 9 Hours Ago, 12:32 PM


kenpoman Re: Justice: For Arabs Only? 7 Hours Ago, 02:23 PM


Andrew R Re: Justice: For Arabs Only? 7 Hours Ago, 02:38 PM


moran38 Re: Justice: For Arabs Only? 7 Hours Ago, 02:56 PM


Andrew R Re: Justice: For Arabs Only? 6 Hours Ago, 03:28 PM


moran38 Re: Justice: For Arabs Only? 6 Hours Ago, 03:34 PM


More replies below current depth...


Ronin11208 Re: Justice: For Arabs Only? 6 Hours Ago, 03:39 PM


moran38 Re: Justice: For Arabs Only? 6 Hours Ago, 03:42 PM


WongHoPinyan Re: Justice: For Arabs Only? 6 Hours Ago, 03:44 PM


moran38 Re: Justice: For Arabs Only? 6 Hours Ago, 03:48 PM


WongHoPinyan Re: Justice: For Arabs Only? 6 Hours Ago, 03:54 PM


moran38 Re: Justice: For Arabs Only? 6 Hours Ago, 04:08 PM


Justice: For Arabs Only?

By Gerald A. Honigman

FrontPageMagazine.com | April 14, 2005


Well, the day has finally arrived. I now find myself in agreement with the Secretary General of the Arab League.


Recently, at the end of the Arab League Summit, Amr Mussa declared that peace could not arrive until there was withdrawal from occupied territories, the creation of another state, and the return of refugees.


He’s basically correct. Except he has a few details mixed up.


Native Copts in Egypt-millions of them-had their country overrun by conquering, settling, subjugating, and occupying Arabs.


To this day, they never know when the next murder will occur, the next church will be burned down. They have learned that to survive they must consent to the forced Arabization process. Their leaders have even written that for Israel to “get along,” it too must consent to a variation of this. Pretty pathetic. Uncle Butros instead of Uncle Tom-but the same breed, if you know what I mean. Just imagine the world-wide outcry if Israel’s Jews did this sort of thing to Israeli Arabs.


The majority Berber population of North Africa saw its lands overrun as well over the past centuries by conquering, settling, and subjugating Arab hordes creating Arab empires. Imperialism is evidently only nasty when non-Arabs indulge in it. Berbers who dared to insist on keeping their own pre-Arab language and culture have been murdered for trying to do so. A look at any number of websites dealing with Berbers on these subjects will be revealing indeed.


In 1968, Ismet Cherif Vanly wrote The Syrian Mein Kampf Against the Kurds. A Kurdish nationalist, he described the murderous and brutal Arabization policies-Syrian settling, conquering, and occupying Arabs-employed against Kurds who predated them in the land by thousands of years. Settling, conquering, and occupying Iraqi Arabs did likewise to Mesopotamia’s ancient native Kurds (the Hurrians, Guti, Kassites, and Medes of old), Assyrians, and other non-Arab peoples as well-Jews included.


Literally millions of native African Blacks have been butchered, maimed, enslaved, turned into refugees and seen their lands forcibly Arabized. All of this still going on today, and not just in the Sudan.


Half of Israel’s almost six million Jews originated in the Arab/Muslim world. They too predated the Arabs in many of those lands that they were forced to flee as refugees, leaving far more property and valuables behind than Arabs who fled in the opposite direction after the latter’s brethren invaded a reborn Israel in 1948.


The famous Jewish community in Alexandria, Egypt, was prominent centuries before Jesus. The Jews of Iraq had been in that country at least since the days of the Babylonian Captivity and Nebuchadnezzar. The Jews of Yemen were on the Arabian Peninsula before Muhammad was born, and the latter Prophet of Islam fled Mecca to Medina, a Jewish date palm oasis on that peninsula where the Jews were still prominent when Muhammad sought refuge there during the Hijra. When they would neither convert to his new faith (based largely on their own), nor accept his religio-political leadership, he butchered and enslaved them. Jews also took part in the resistance against the Arab imperial invasions of North Africa in the 7th century C.E. Recorded history, replete with similar instances, is difficult to reconcile with Amr Mussa’s demand that the Jewish state submit to the will of the Arab world.


A better course for the Middle East might be the following:


It’s time that the Africans of southern Sudan gain independence from the Arabs who have butchered, subjugated, and enslaved them over the centuries-long before the hypocrites in the United Nations raised so much as a mutter.


It’s time for thirty million truly stateless people-such as the Kurds-to finally get their own state. They were promised one after World War I but saw it sacrificed at the altar of British petroleum politics and Arab nationalism. An Arab Iraq was pieced together in its stead.


Trusting Arabs-whether Shi’a or Sunni-is probably an unwise decision, given the track records of Arabs of any stripe towards these people. With almost two dozen states already-including one carved out of almost 80 percent of the original 1920 borders of “Palestine” and today called Jordan-Arabs now have an American-sponsored roadmap to help create yet another for themselves. Yet even as they demand justice for Arabs, they seem deaf, dumb, and blind to the plight of the Kurds.


It’s time for the subjugation of North Africa’s huge Berber populations to come to an end and for those folks to be able to decide if they want to remain forcibly tied to Arabs or not. If not, then why should they not get territory to create a Berber State if Arabs can get to have yet a second one carved out for themselves in “Palestine?


You see, Mr. Musa, justice should not be exclusively for Arabs.


Unfortunately, for the Copts, not too much to offer here...So many more will become refugees.


And the above Arabs’ victims’ list is by no means complete. Just ask native Christian, Semitic but pre-Arab Lebanese-as just one other example.


The hypocrisy of the conquering, racist, and subjugating Arab League is nauseating enough. That the latter, however, is widely supported in its demands on Israel by much of the rest of the world should be appalling to anyone with any notion of fair play.


Despite all of the international pressure on it to consent to becoming a reincarnated 1938 Czechoslovakia, ready to sacrifice itself for another “peace for all time,” Israel must now muster the strength to do what it must do.


The only appropriate response of Israel to all of this should be to counter offer the Arab League peace for peace. Israel must not consent to slowly being eroded via the Arabs’ openly admitted “Trojan Horse” destruction in stages plans. And it must free itself from the belief that it must allow Arabs to determine the rules of the road if widespread violence erupts again. Abbas’ folks have said that they would support quiet only as long as Israel continues to cave in to all of their demands. And they’re the “moderates.”


Millions upon millions of non-Arabs became refugees because of the Arabs. Many of these people fled to America, Great Britain, Germany, and elsewhere. They’re not returning to those “Arab” lands. Likewise, Arabs will have to take care of their own refugees, created in a war that they started and far fewer in number.


The occupied territories Amr Musa mostly speaks of are disputed lands. They are not purely “Arab.” Jews had as many, or more rights to be on those lands as Arabs had. Much has been written about this, including UN Resolution 242, and leading experts such as Eugene Rostow, William O’Brien, Arthur Goldberg, Lord Caradon, and others have been quite vocal on these matters as well.


Jews have a word describing demands such as those made by Amr Musa. It’s called chutzpah. Israel must have leaders who will respond to such so-called Arab prerequisites for “peace” by telling them where to stuff them.

Posted by: Jerry on Oct 24, 05 | 5:40 pm | Profile

[0] Trackbacks   [0] Pingbacks

Look what Iraqi Pres.Talabani's own Party has sent all over...

Patriotic Union of Kurdistan


( Visit this at http://puk.org/web/htm/news/nws/news030919.html )



ANBA I AL SAHAFA I PRESS RELEASE I THE PUK I PESHMERGA I LINKS I CONTACT I HOME



Why the double standards?


By Gerald A. Honigman


While the world’s media still debates whether or not Arabs who deliberately blow up civilian busloads of innocents are militants or terrorists, Mr. Ignatius has no problem using the “T” word for Kurds. And while the same media insists that there be a 22nd Arab state, somehow 30 million stateless Kurds are still considered undeserving of one.


David Ignatius of the Washington Post wrote on September 16, 2003 of the danger in playing America’s Turkish card in Iraq. In the course of the article, when mentioning the Kurds, he referred to them only as terrorists or rebels.


Now think about that for a minute. At a time when most media folks are still debating whether or not Arabs—who deliberately blow up busloads of Jewish innocents in buses, pizza parlors, teen nightclubs, etc.-- are “militants” or “terrorists,” folks like Mr. Ignatius have no problem using the “T” word for Kurds.


Let’s say, right from the start, that I support a strong Turco-American alliance, but it’s not a good idea to have the Turkish military join us in Iraq. I’ll get into this issue a bit later on. For now, consider the following…


Just imagine if Israel was to say that under no circumstances would another Palestinian Arab state be permitted to be created (Jordan having been carved out, in 1922, of some 80% of the original borders of Mandatory Palestine as Britain received it on April 25, 1920).


Could you envision the outcry around the world? Yet this is precisely what our friends, the Turks, have stated over and over again regarding the Kurds. And besides David Ignatius’ comments, this has been echoed elsewhere as well such as in Thomas Friedman’s March 26th article in the New York Times. Friedman advised that the Kurds should be told point blank, “what part of ‘no’ don’t you understand? ...You Kurds are not breaking away.”


Nauseating. These are the same authors who, along with many others, have written volumes espousing the creation of that 22nd Arab state.

While the Turks’ nervousness over such a thought is understandable, their position (as well as Ignatius’, Friedman’s, etc.) is morally indefensible...if that means anything these days. We’ll return to this issue as well later on. At this time, however, we need to take a good look at the plight of some 30 million perpetually used and abused Kurds. Think about all of the journalistic, political, and other energy which has been devoted to the creation of that 22nd Arab state. Now ask yourselves how much has been devoted to the plight of stateless Kurds? Think of Mr. Ignatius’ and Mr. Friedman’s comments for starters.


For several decades now, in the study of Middle Eastern Affairs, some subjects have appeared to be taboo while others never seem to leave center stage. Perhaps one reason for this state of affairs lies in the perpetual quest for Arab petro-dollars by financially hungry academic institutions. Another possibly related reason has something to do with those who have hijacked an intolerant control of Middle Eastern Studies in academia. Israel, constantly in the spotlight’s glare, is thus frequently picked apart (all in the name of “objective scholarship” of course), and every real and/or imaginary sin is repeatedly exposed for all to see and pass judgment upon. Indeed, many academics have taken the lead recently to single Israel out and treat it as a pariah in their attempts to have their institutions cut all ties to it.


The mere suggestion that Pan-Arabism or Arab nationalism has problems with Jewish nationalism/Zionism for at least some of the same reasons it has had similar problems elsewhere--Berber North Africa, Lebanon, Syrian and Iraqi Kurdistan, the Sudan, etc.--can elicit harsh rebuke. In the classroom, however, such subjects are more often than not simply not dealt with at all. Rare is the classroom, for example, that gets into a discussion of the “other side” of the Middle East refugee problem, the one half of Israel’s Jews who fled Arab/Muslim lands as a result of the war Arabs launched against the nascent Jewish State. Even more rare is the class that puts the 1947 partition plan for Palestine into the broader context of another partition going on at the very same time between Hindus and Muslims over the Indian subcontinent. The double standard frequently reigns supreme, and while students are often left with the impression that one national movement holds a monopoly on evil and injustice, the other is in line for imminent canonization.


Not surprisingly, therefore, revealing and provocative subjects such as Arab treatment of the Kurds have, until recently, simply been ignored. It took Saddam’s gassing of them a little over a decade ago in Desert Storm to finally get some interest aroused...but not much. Yet these same voices, mostly silent on the decades’ old subjugation and slaughter of Kurds, loudly protest that Arab nationalism has been eternally wronged because it has manifested itself to date--largely via conquest and forced arabization of other peoples and their lands--on “only” twenty-two states, including one on over 80% of the original Mandate for Palestine issued to Britain on April 25, 1920 and today known as Jordan. Some thirty million proud, much abused, and beleaguered people--still not in possession of one state let alone two dozen others--are thus simply disregarded in a grotesque display of moral bankruptcy and hypocrisy by the very same circles promoting an Arafatian state. What’s even worse, outside of academia, an Arabist-dominated State Department perpetuates this problem for its own largely oil-tainted reasons. And most of the media engages in this double standard as well.


The story of Kurdish nationalism is a depressing one when compared with that of other nationalisms in the Middle East. Arab and Iranian nationalisms, for example, are replete with events causing anger, frustration, setbacks, and the like, but their futures remain alive with the promise of a better tomorrow. Not so, however, for the Kurds...That is, not until recently. While great forces are still working against this--not the least being those at Foggy Bottom-- the war in Iraq has the potential to, at long last, right an historic wrong. It is time…


The Kurds are a native, non-Arab people who have lived in the Middle East for thousands of years. Their name derives from the ancient Guti (Guti-Gurti-Kurdi), conquerors of Babylon. They were the non-Semitic Hurrians of Mesopotamia and the Medes of Persian history. Their home covers mountainous regions now part of Turkey, Syria, Iraq, Iran, and other countries as well. But the heartland of ancient Gutium, the domain of later autonomous Kurdish mirs, had been in what is now-- thanks to the British-- Arab Iraq.


The area around Mosul and Kirkuk, vast in petroleum deposits, was traditional Kurdish land. Add to this an ironic twist. While Syrian Arabs (as well as Saddam) like to sing praises to the medieval warrior Saladin’s name, Saladin was, in fact, a Kurd who joined in the fight against Christendom’s advances in the Middle East. Had he known what would be in store for his people at the hands of Syrian Arabs centuries later, he might have had second thoughts. A reading of the Kurdish nationalist Ismet Cherif Vanly’s book, The Syrian ‘Mein Kampf’ Against The Kurds (Amsterdam 1968), gives some good insight into how Arabs have dealt with any and all potential rivals in the region.


The Ottoman Turks controlled most of the Middle East for over four centuries. With the pending collapse of their empire, numerous peoples had their dreams for independence once again reemerge. President Wilson encouraged this himself in his famous Fourteen Points and his calls for self-determination for all former subject peoples. The Kurds were among those whose aspirations were addressed.


The best and most reasonable chance for Kurdish independence was sacrificed, however, in the immediate post-World War I era on the altar of British petroleum politics and Arab nationalism. What was promised as “Kurdistan” became Arab Iraq instead. The odds against a favorable outcome to such aspirations grew immensely from then on. Among other things, Arab nationalists feared that if such a state arose it would become the focus of immigration for millions of Kurds living in Turkey and Iran. Arabs also wrote that they would see the birth of an independent Kurdistan as equivalent to the creation of another Israel, i.e. it would permanently separate lands from what Arabs claimed solely for themselves.


In order to maintain any credibility in the strategically important Arab world, the British--who had recently switched from a coal to an oil-powered imperial navy--decided that they had to ignore previous promises made to the Kurds and included the oil-rich Kurdish areas in what was being formed as Arab Iraq instead. Britain decided that its long-term interests required keeping the Arab world as friendly as possible. Besides backing off from promises to the Jews in Palestine (including chopping off all of the land east of the Jordan River and handing it over to the Arabs in 1922 with the creation of the Emirate of Transjordan), this also meant passing another litmus test, the abandonment of the Kurds.


A newly invigorated Turkish Republic under Ataturk and Iran’s Reza Shah Pahlavi ruled out, respectively, the potential western and eastern options as well--despite numerous and continuing revolts in the former and the brief Mehabad experience in the latter. Rebellion in these areas represented/represent acts of desperation by a repeatedly exploited and abandoned people. In an era in which former victims of imperialism and oppression were struggling for recognition and gaining national rights, the Kurds were alternately tantalized with intimations of independence and crushed by the withdrawal of these promises at the very moment their realization appeared to be within reach. The explosive results were inevitable. “Rebels,” indeed, Mr. Ignatius…


Even more troubling for those of us who love America and care about what our nation represents to the world, the United States replaced Britain as the primary user (abuser?) of the Kurds, using them to hammer away at our own enemies in the region, and repeatedly abandoning them to their own fate when our own immediate goals were reached. So, that brings us up to the present and our current problems with post(?)-Saddam Iraq.


We hear from the folks at the State Department that Iraq must not be dismembered because it will lead to instability in the region. Talk of a newly-created federal state prevails. Funny, these same foggy Bottom folks don’t think twice about what the creation of a second Palestinian Arab state will do to both a miniscule, 9-mile wide Israel and a Jordan whose majority population is Palestinian Arab. Repeated partitions are legitimate for Palestine, but not even one is permissible for Mesopotamia/Iraq. There will be no “Road Map” for Kurdistan...What’s wrong with this picture?


The real reasons for our State Department not wanting this, of course, are quite different. One of the main issues is the same one that Britain had when it aborted an independent Kurdistan in the first place: fear of angering the Arab world. But think of what could happen if Mosul and Kirkuk’s oil became part of a long overdue, friendly Kurdish State with America as its main ally…


The other major concern is more noble and has to do with our friends, the Turks. With the collapse of their empire after World War I, when the dust finally settled, Ataturk pulled together a reinvigorated (if much constricted) Turkey. The eastern portion of what was left of the Turkish domain, however, largely consisted of Kurds, but the Turks had drawn their line in the sand and were not about to permit the dismemberment of any more of their territories due to a Kurdish nationalism frustrated with the loss of the one best chance it had at independence in Mesopotamia. So the Turks and Arabs (and others as well) have all harshly suppressed the aspirations of this stateless people. Additionally, Kurdish language, culture, and other aspects of Kurdish identity have been periodically outlawed.


So here’s our current challenge-- if we can overcome the Arabists who too frequently call the shots at the State Department. We now have a chance to right an historical wrong. If Arabs can, after all, have twenty-one states, and very possibly a 22nd in the future, on lands mostly conquered and forcibly Arabized from other, non-Arab peoples, how can thirty million Kurds be forced to forever remain stateless and usually at someone else’s mercy?


What will happen to America’s Kurdish allies, who fought and died side by side with our troops to overthrow Saddam, when America leaves the area due to any number of potential reasons? Arabs will not hesitate to take “revenge” on this people whom they have a long history of massacring.


Turks fear that an independent Kurdistan in northern Iraq will cause and/or support a similar move to independence in the adjacent Turkish lands. This is, in reality, extremely doubtful. More likely--and with proper cultivation most probably--what will occur is that those Kurds ( like those Greeks or those Jews or those Armenians, etc.) who wish to live in an independent state of their own will migrate to that state in northern Iraq. Indeed, Turkey stands to lose many of its own potential “problems” this way. The odds of that new state--born as a result of American and possibly Turkish assistance by dismantling Saddam’s Iraq--purposely biting the hands that fed it are not very likely.


Turkoman tribes in the north and Sunni and Shia Arabs in central and southern Iraq will have a loosely federated state as well, and a formula can be reached whereby the oil wealth can be shared--including with the Turks who feel that they lost the Mosul fields due to Britain’s earlier influence with the League of Nations after World War I. It was good that the Turks said “no” to our using their border with Iraq as a springboard for our troops during the overthrow of Saddam. Part of the price tag for such permission would have likely been granting the Turks permission to occupy Iraqi Kurdistan...a moral nightmare...again, if that means anything these days. Talk of inviting Turkish troops to now “help out” in Iraq falls into this same mold.


Since we went to war and once again called upon our strangely loyal friends, the Kurds, to assist us in ousting Saddam, we have to be sure that this time we hold the moral high ground. We’ve not done this before with them. Indeed, after President George Bush (senior) called on them to revolt against Saddam in Desert Storm, he watched and did nothing while these people were slaughtered by the thousands. A bit earlier they had been gassed to death as well.Secretary of State’s September 2003 visit to Halabja was thus a bit ironic. He was one of those who had a say in this earlier policy. Remember that the full force of America’s war machine was nearby and could have acted...but didn’t. And this was not the first time we abused them this way. It is time to right a long overdue historical wrong.


KurdishMedia.com 19 September, 2003

Posted by: Jerry on Oct 24, 05 | 11:25 am | Profile

[0] Trackbacks   [0] Pingbacks

Copts are the native, pre-7th century C.E. Arab invasion people

Like too many others, there is lingering anti-Semitism in the Coptic Church as well...regardless of poltical considerations which also complicate matters.


Persecuted and murdered in their native country by Arab Muslims, they have largely had to consent to a forced Arabization to survive over the centuries.


Many Copts have fled to Western lands. Once there, they often are more willing to confront these problems and deal honestly with them.


The Copts have been among those who, on their own, have found my material and spread it all around the world.


Please see the recent exchange of correspondence below which began as a result of recent anti-Semitic statements which came out of the leader of the Copts in Egypt.


Start from the bottom and work your way up:


----- Original Message -----


From: Gerald A. Honigman

To: freedom@copts4freedom.com

Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2005 5:01 PM

Subject: Re: Thanks for using my article, Let’s Create Another M.E. State, a while back...


Dear Mr. Iscander...

Yours is not the only Christian Church, unfortunately, which has still not rid itself of anti-Semitism...indeed, it is ingrained in too much of what has become known as “religion.”


Let’s hope we can all rise above this as children of one G_d.


Please see my website and read the “objectives” so you’ll see why I never received my Ph.D. Also find your site linked here as well.


http://geraldahonigman.com/


Latest article...just written yesterday, in 9 print and web publications so far…


[url=http://www.americandaily.com/article/9830]http://www.americandaily.com/article/9830
[/url]

Feel free to use any of my work. I see us as allies in the truest sense of the word...so we need to act more and more like this.


Please add me to your e-mail list and consider adding my own website to your links.


All my best… Jerry



----- Original Message -----

From: freedom@copts4freedom.com

To: honigman6@msn.com

Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2005 1:41 PM

Subject: Re: Thanks for using my article, Let’s Create Another M.E. State, a while back...

Dear Dr. Gerald A. Honigman

Thank you very much for your support and concern. We apologoize for the Patriarch

irresponsible statement, hope we could change such statement in the future.


Thank very much for your article and suppoort.God bless


Rafique Iscandar

American Coptic Union -President


----- Original Message -----


From: Gerald A. Honigman honigman6@msn.com


To: freedom@copts4freedom.com

Sent: 10/18/05 8:17 PM

Subject: Thanks for using my article, Let’s Create Another M.E. State, a while back...

> but take a look at what your leader is saying back in the homeland...do you agree?

>
> Hope not… www.geraldahonigman.com
>

> All my best...


>
> Jerry
>

>
> Subject: 6/17/05 report of quote from Egyptian Coptic Pope/Guysen Israel News

>
>

> Egyptian Patriarch Chenuda III, leader of the Orthodox Coptic Church, said that pilgrimages to Jerusalem were forbidden “as long as it is in the hands of heretics (Jews). I support dialogue between Christians and Muslims, but not Jews” he added (Guysen.Israël.News)


>
> In October 2000, Chenouda III won the Madanjeet Singh UNESCO Price for the promotion of tolerance and non-violence, on the recommendation of an international panel. “Patriarch Chenuda is a religious man who devotes himself to the promotion of tolerance. We think that religion is a sphere in which tolerance must be especially promoted because it is often there that it lacks most” said panel head Tanella Boni
>
>

Posted by: Jerry on Oct 24, 05 | 4:29 am | Profile

[0] Trackbacks   [0] Pingbacks

Don't Mess With Texas...Check out the comments too at end

ISRAPUNDIT, 10/22/05

Don’t Mess With Texas

Gerald A. Honigman


Some statistics to keep in mind before we begin:


Texas covers about 268,000 square miles
Israel covers about 8,000 square miles.
About 34 Israels fit inside of Texas.
The almost two dozen nations which make up the “Arab World” cover over 6,000,000 square miles of territory--land mostly conquered and forcibly Arabized in the name of the Arab nation and/or the Dar ul-Islam from mostly non-Arab peoples.


Abu Mazen came a callin’ the other day.


The Holocaust denyin’, sweet-talkin’ Arafatian in a suit and darlin’ of the West, Prime Minister Mahmoud Abbas, came to visit Dubya and to demand yet more one-sided concessions from the Jews. He’s got them on the run, ya know...Lebanon, Gaza and all that. Strike while the iron’s hot (and the Jews can’t seem to muster the backbone to do what must be done regardless of whose hypocritical feathers get ruffled)!


A number of years before Dubya became President, he allegedly commented that some Texas driveways were longer than the width of Israel at its waist, where most of its population and industry are located.


Boy, does he need to remember this!


Not long ago I heard a catchy tune and pride of my Houston friends, Don’t Mess With Texas. This saying has become like an oath, second only to the Pledge of Allegiance in the Lone Star State. Soon afterwards, three more young Israelis were deliberately murdered by the bad cop half of the Arab good cop/bad cop team operating against the Jews.


Dubya’s buddy, Abbas, gave the standard empty condemnation for Western consumption: He’s against this sort of thing--for now at least, with Israel in retreat and constantly caving into pressure from others who have conquered and acquired lands far and wide in the name of their own nations’ security interests--because the timing is bad and it may hurt the Arab demand to create a second, not first, state for themselves in “Palestine.” Bad press, and all that stuff. Never do we hear from any of these folks (the alleged “moderates,” mind you) that it is morally wrong to kill innocent Jews. And for good reason...


In Arab eyes, no Israeli Jew is innocent. They who have conquered and continue to conquer scores of millions of non-Arab peoples and their lands--Kurds, Berbers, Black Africans, Copts, Jews, Assyrians, Semitic but pre-Arab Lebanese, and so forth--simply see the Jewish babe that they disembowel as an occupier of “purely Arab land.”


Read the above sentence carefully, dear reader, for it sums up the Arab-Israeli conflict in a nutshell.


Movin’ on...


All of this--the song, the latest atrocity, and so forth--got me to thinkin’.


What would the Don’t Mess With Texas crew do if faced with what the Jews have to deal with on a daily basis?


I mean, I’m at least a fourth generation red-blooded American boy too, but a few facts need to be considered here.


Texas, after all, was conquered from Mexico as part of a drive by America to further its own “Manifest Destiny.”


Might made right.


And, unlike Jews with thousands of years of history and land ownership in the disputed territories now in question, Texans had no prior connection to the land they grabbed from Mexico.


The Alamo was no Masada.


This is an important point, but readers, who probably know something about the Alamo, will have to search themselves about Masada on the internet or elsewhere. The story of the Jews’ heroic stand for freedom against their Roman conquerors--documented by the contemporary Roman-sponsored historians themselves--demands more than just the few lines I can give it here.


Imagine, please, what a Governor Bush’s reaction would have been (or a President Bush’s after 9/11) if Texan kids were deliberately gunned down in their schools, blown apart on buses, at night clubs, or eating pizza with their friends, and such. Better yet, what would Dubya’s reaction be, G-d forbid, if the young women recently murdered waiting for a ride were his own daughters instead? Would he try his best to prevent this from happening again? Would he worry about any “inconveniences” he may cause to an enemy population deliberately targeting his people and who rejected Texas’ very right to exist--regardless of its size? Would Dubya listen to others who demanded that he do nothing, or at least nothing meaningful, to stop the barbarism? Do I even need to ask such questions?


Yet the President has recently told the Jews that their moves to prevent this sort of thing from happening again to their own kids must come to a halt. Checkpoints, detours, and such--that America has in place in Iraq--cause too much “inconvenience” for Abbas’ folks. That evidently is more important than saving Jewish lives. Not to mention the fact that without the terror, there would be none of these “inconveniences.”


Hey, did ya’ll know that there’s a big fence out West keepin’ Mexicans from crossing the border mostly just to find jobs? But Dubya--Israel’s alleged best friend--demands that any such thing the Jews erect to keep Arab jihadists at bay be rendered virtually useless at the most sensitive locations. Instead of allowing for the needed buffer, Israel is being forced to cling to the ‘49 Auschwitz/armistice lines. It’s main airport, for example, Ben Gurion, is thus left exposed and vulnerable.


The President knows full well that U.N. Security Council Resolution 242--which supposedly forms the basis for any future peace making--does not demand that Israel return to its vulnerable, pre-’67, 9-mile wide armistice line existence. Indeed, it calls for the creation of “secure and recognized borders” to replace that earlier travesty imposed upon the Jews. Back in April 2004 he publicly acknowledged this himself. But, what a difference the past year has made...especially since his reelection. Now, instead, he, along with Condi, demand that the second state for Arabs to be created in Palestine (Arab state #22) be no bantustan, have contiguity, and the like. What this means for an Israel that one already needs a magnifying glass to find on a map of the world is apparently of no consequence.


Recall that, regarding those armistice lines, as would become the routine, the U.N. stood by and did nothing when a half dozen Arab armies invaded a reborn, miniscule Israel in 1948. Only when the Jews turned the tide did the U.N. step in...to limit Arab losses, not to halt their aggression. Armistice lines (marking the point where hostilities ceased)--not borders--were then set before Israel could advance any further.


Judea and Samaria--only in the past century, due to British imperialism and “Transjordan’s” land grab in ‘48 known as the “West Bank"--were non-apportioned areas of the original Mandate for Palestine that Britain received on April 25, 1920, after the Paris Peace Conference ending World War I. The non-Arab Turks--who controlled much of the region for over four centuries--chose the wrong side during the war and saw what was left of their over-extended empire carved up as a result.


As leading experts like Eugene Rostow (one of 242’s architects) have pointed out, Jews, Arabs, and others were entitled to live in these non-apportioned lands. Indeed, as I’ve often written before but which necessarily--for the sake of new readers--has to be repeated anyway, the League Of Nations Permanent Mandates Commission and other sources documented that many, if not most, so-called native Palestinians came from elsewhere themselves during the Mandatory period.


Indeed, when the United Nations Relief Works Agency (UNRWA) was set up exclusively to deal with Arab refugees created as a result of the war their own brethren started in 1948 (while there was no such U.N. help for a like number of Jews from “Arab” lands who were forced to flee as well), the very definition of the word refugee had to be modified to accommodate all of the new Arab settlers.


Recall also (another fact that must be repeated, like it or not) that “purely Arab” Transjordan was itself created in 1922 from 80%--the lion’s share--of the original 1920 Mandate of Palestine. As no Jews were allowed to live in what became known as, after 1948, “Jordan” (since it now held both the east and west banks of the Jordan River), only Arabs were subsequently able to take up residence. Prior to this, Jews had been slaughtered there earlier in the Mandatory period.


But, enough of the past...


Back to the present, Dubya now needs to regain the moral high ground he assumed back in April 2004 when, standing across from Israeli Prime Minister Sharon, he uttered simple yet magical words...the key to any real peace between Arab and Jew in the Middle East.


Dubya stated, before millions watching him on television, the two key ingredients for such a recipe:


Israel should not be expected to return to the indefensible armistice lines of 1949 (and he called them just that, not “borders"), and real and fudged Arab refugees would have to go to the proposed new Arab state, not overwhelm the Jews in what was left of Israel. Again, half of Israel’s Jews were refugees from Arab/Muslim lands--but without the almost two dozen states that Arabs already have to call their own.


Einstein was not needed to concoct such a recipe.


But Arabs have long been given reason, via the world’s actions, to hope that Israel would yet become an updated Czechoslovakia with the West Bank serving as its Sudetenland. All that was missing was a resurrected Chamberlain to allow for another Munich-type sellout to achieve “peace.”


President Bush’s April 2004 words, as simple as they were, remain the necessary magical ingredients to end this conflict.


Unfortunately, as we have seen, they apparently proved to be fleeting.


No sooner than they were spoken, the Foggy Folks began to water them down.


No surprise here. The State Department fought President Truman over the very rebirth of Israel more than a half century earlier.


That Dubya, himself, has backtracked on this as well over the past year, however, is a far more serious--if not totally unexpected--development.

“Born Again” or not, Dubya’s family, after all, has considerable ties to Arab petrodollars, and close family friend, James Baker, Bush the First’s Secretary of State, is notorious for his Jew-hatred as well as his anti-Zionism.


Baker is famous for his “_ _ _ _ the Jews, they don’t vote for us anyway “ comments; speaking of his “Jew Boys” working for the State Department; referring to Israel as a turkey that needed to be carefully stalked; has his own law firm representing the Saudis in this country; and other such goodies. Not long ago, Dubya made him his Special Middle East Envoy. This can’t be good news for anyone who cares about Israel getting a fair hearing. Remember, Dubya can’t run for reelection and doesn’t need millions of Evangelical voters again any time soon.


Bush’s apparent flip flop seems to have coincided with the onset of America’s Iraqi prison problems.


After the scandal erupted, this--added to an already increased overall level of Arab animosity surfacing regarding America’s invasion of Iraq, the Arab-Israeli conflict, etc.--led the Foggy Folks to quickly search for additional ways to appease the Arabs. The Jew of the Nations has always been their favorite sacrificial lamb in these regards.


Puff…


Gone, apparently in an instant, was the magic of April, vintage 2004.


As we have seen, both State and the President himself have since made statements which basically retracted much of what Dubya had said standing across from Prime Minister Sharon two Aprils earlier.


But consider, please, what this all says to Israel...


At the first sign of problems, its best friend, America, is all too willing to retract its support for what all other nations would naturally expect...the right to protect itself from an alleged “peace” that is really designed to bring about its very destruction.


Remember that the alleged “moderate” Arafatians in suits still insist that they will never recognize a Jewish Israel and declare that a 9-mile wide Israel must consent to being overwhelmed by millions of jihadist-raised, allegedly “returning” Arab refugees. This would all be funny if it wasn’t deadly. And if Arabs didn’t have America now assisting them in forcing the Jews to cave in.


Trying to look at all of this as optimistically as possible (not really my nature, however), and despite his recent mess-ups in these regards, President Bush still has time to make this right.


The basic ingredients of the recipe for peace are what they are. They will not change.


It’s still a matter not of how big Israel is that causes Arabs grief--but that Israel is.


And the Arabs are quite open about all of this, as a visit to all of their official websites, maps, textbooks, media outlets, mosques, and such illustrate.


The most that even the so-called “moderates” offer Jews for the latter’s giving away the entire store is a temporary hudna, not peace (despite what the President tries to claim for them), with the Jewish State. Furthermore, they call all negotiations with the Jews merely a Trojan Horse designed to bring about their own updated version of the “Final Solution.”


In a world in which perfect justice is non-existent among the realm of man, relative justice demands that if Arabs ever expect to get anything meaningful regarding that additional state they insist upon, they will have to come to understand that others, besides themselves, also have a right to a bit of justice in the region. When they do this, they will find an Israel forthcoming in its willingness to meet them far more than half way. But, in the meantime, America (and given certain “realities” at the State Department, this means the American President) must also demand no less.


The time for America forcing repeatedly unilateral, dangerous, and concrete concessions from Jews in return for mere sweet-talk from those who still plan their destruction must come to an end.


Posted by Ted Belman at October 22, 2005 05:20 PM


Trackback Pings
TrackBack URL for this entry:
http://www.israpundit.com/mt-tb.cgi/10948


Comments

1. BobW said:


Gerald A. Honigman is approaching the apex of Jewish political writers. Always look forward to reading his articles.


I know he lost getting his PhD because of his support for Israel. Had initially wondered why Jewish educators did not establish an independent institute free of the restrictions and traps such as experienced by Honigman. RAND Corp first started off with only a small PhD program. No longer do I wonder about all these things because the sell out is easy to witness.


The article mentions Eugene Rostow, “(one of 242’s architects)”. Eugene Rostow was Jewish. The original family name was Rostov, who had emigrated from Russia.


It was the brother Walt Rostow, who was more famous. He was a close political advisor to both JFK and LBJ. It is generally believed that Walt Whitman is the author of the expression “The New Frontier”. The Brits awarded him an OBE for his wartime service. He left Washington, D.C. to teach at the LBJ School, Univ of Texas. He died in Texas a couple of years ago.


Also mentioned was the Alamo. Abraham Wolf, a Jew, was killed in the famous battle.


When Texas was an independent Republic under Sam Houston, a key diplomat was Henry Castro, Consul General To France. He was Jewish. The surgeon who accompanies Gen Sam Houston during their war was Moses Albert Levy.


Many Texas cities have Jewish sounding names. There’s a reason for this.


Kol tuv,
BobW

Posted by: BobW on October 23, 2005 09:09 AM

2. georg von mecklenburg said:


All of my American relatives almost to the person have committed themselves to bolt from the Republican Party and either vote for another candidate or not vote at all. All of my American relations are not Jews, but they are sick of the way Mr. Bush has handed Israel over to the Palestinian Terrorists. My Southern relations some of whom have been residents of the USA since its founding have sworn to never vote for anyone who is favored by Mr. Bush and his crowd.


Posted by: georg von mecklenburg on October 23, 2005 10:33 AM

3. Bill Narvey said:


Georg, for those in America, be they Jew or non-Jew, who support a strong Israel and who see no prospect for peace with the Palestinians because of their implacable Jew hatred and refusal to give up their agenda of destroying Israel, G.W. Bush’s waning support for Israel is indeed troubling.


It is noteworthy however that the snivelling, whining and demanding Abbas was sent packing by Bush with no goodies for his basket of wishes.


It is too early to think that this necessarily connotes Bush once again leaning more towards Israel as opposed to leaning more on Israel. The ensuing weeks and statements by Bush and C. Rice will tell us just what Bush disappointing Abbas really means.


You have like me probably read the views of quite a number of Americans who have denounced Bush for this and claim they will not vote for him again though that point is moot since Bush will not be running again. One can take it to mean that these disgruntled Americans will not vote Republican again, assuming the next presidential candidate from Republican ranks appears to be as soft on Palestinians and tough on Israel as Bush has been over the past year.


You may have noted that these Americans do not say they are going to vote for the Democrats.


On the issue of American support for Israel, if one considers the musings of John Kerry and Hillary Clinton to name a few about the importance of working in tandem with other Western nations and in particular Europe which is anti-American and for the most part no friends of Israel, I can see the Democrats selling Israel out for the allied consensus it seeks far faster than the Republicans.


In the next presidential election, unless the presidential candidate from either party gives clear and unequivocal support for Israel’s need for secure defensible borders, for Israel to remain strong in order to balance not just the forces of the Palestinians, but the entire Arab world that stands behind the Palestinians and further unless the candidate makes clear that the Palestinian Jew hatred and their steadfast agenda of destroying Israel by inches with the world’s blessing are bull shit and will no longer be humored or tolerated, Americans who care about Israel are going to be faced with the difficulty of making the best choice out of two bad choices.


Posted by: Bill Narvey on October 23, 2005 11:58 AM

Posted by: Jerry on Oct 24, 05 | 4:17 am | Profile

[0] Trackbacks   [0] Pingbacks

Wed Oct 19, 2005

I hate fishermen who exaggerate...gives us all bad name...sooooo

WoW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

No kidding...


We were on a wooden walkway just 2-3 feet above a wild gator making his way through wetland vegetation in Paynes Prairie near--you guessed it--the home of UF’s Florida Gators, Gainesville. He (or she) was at least a 10 footer...probably 11-12. We were visiting my son, Jonathan...a new Gator. We’ll have 3 of our 4 kids in college this year...Ouch!


So...are you following Saddam’s trial on the heels of the recent Iraqi vote on the constitution?

Regardless of your politics, this has to be bad news for the Bush-bashers.

Saddam can’t be left alive. That will have those whom he intimidated for years living in constant fear of a coup that will one day see him released and restored to power.

My preference? Kill him slowly...let him suffer from the effects of gassing like tens of thousands of Kurds who did not die right away like thousands of others did. Forget about trying to prove how much better we are than him by imprisoning him or such. He laughs at that.

And, as long as the folks at State don’t wind up shafting the Kurds yet again to appease Arabs, we may indeed wind up with something to be proud of in a lasting way over there.

And if Dubya does what he needs to do regarding squeezing the Syrians instead of the Jews...who knows where this may all lead to?

School papers to grade...Catch you later!

Posted by: Jerry on Oct 19, 05 | 3:18 pm | Profile

[0] Trackbacks   [0] Pingbacks

Thu Oct 13, 2005

Some more feedback exs. from around the world

Israel Insider Magazine

“Too Predictable”

Now That’s The Truth!

Nik666 - Wellington, New Zealand

08/22/2003 16:54 IT

Finally, someone who advocates a sound approach. Everyone with a weapon is a legitimate target, regardless of whether they’re hiding behind women and children or hospitals or whatever. Of course, targeting funeral processions would onlt work once or twice - even Rats have brains, and while Arabs have less, even they can think when it’s in their interests to. But a more traditional Middle Eastern reponse by Israel might certainly be a lot more effective.
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

“A Tale Of Two Nakbas”

kevin ingram - St. ann, Jamaica

12/19/2002 10:17 IT this article is excellent; I am comforted whenever I see articles like this. Please a copy to the U.N.

SHALOM
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

Super Article

Mike - Chicago

12/19/2002 18:22 IT

Very well done! Historically and factually accurate.

Not that evidence and logic can ever sway those who seek to impose Islam on everyone by force or coersion. In their eyes any method, no matter how foul, is acceptable in reaching the goal of complete Muslim domination. Islam glories itself on with rape, child molestation, murder, genocide, deception, ignorance and other things abhorent to human nature. Islam is a cancer on the world that must be treated before it consumes everything.
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

A Tale of Two Nakbas

Peter Pachecos - Calgary, Alberta, Canada

12/19/2002 19:09 IT Wow! This insightful article should be made available to the general public--not just to Israelinsider subscribers.

_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

GREAT ARTICLE!!!!

Barry - Japan

12/22/2002 22:49 IT

A concise response to the disinformation campaign presently waged against Israel by many western press agencies.

One phrase of encouragement - the truth always comes out in the end.

- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

“The Skeletons In Belgium’s Closet and Ariel Sharon”

Hooray for Honigman!

Al - Romania

02/19/2003 09:45 IT Congratulations to Jerry for another fine article. Responsible journalism requires such endeavors to counteract the incredible media bias that exists in the world today.

This article rightly calls attention to the atrocities of the Belgians, not merely for the sake of making counter-accusations, but for the sake of questioning legal precedent in this case. If the accusations against Ariel Sharon are to be allowed, then Belgium ought to stand trial for its own crimes, and Arafat for his, etc. 
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

“Arafat’s Jesus”

Joe - Re: Re: Irrefutable -laura

KR - Australia

02/06/2003 00:36 IT Joe - it looks to me that you are not here to learn some facts but to play an hypocritical role. The thousand of lies that come from Arab side and spread arround the world by its supporters starting with a fabricated Palestinian history, doesn’t bother you. When Israel is constantly accused by ignorants to “occupy” Palestine (can you give me the exact borders of Palestine?) and ‘Palestinian” nation, this articles evidence of Palestinians being just another (Arab) colonizer of a region political miss-named Palestina is very relevant. Why not send this article to papers around the world and let the constantly missled public get some facts and let it be the judge of how relevant they are.

More...

Posted by: Jerry on Oct 13, 05 | 4:31 pm | Profile

[0] Trackbacks   [0] Pingbacks

Another letter from an international reader...

----- Original Message -----

From: Bakh
To: Gerald A. Honigman
Sent: Saturday, January 15, 2005 6:38 PM
Subject: RE: MichNews.com: Who Won’t Be Making Jokes About WMD


With articles like these, you repudiate the Kurdish saying that Kurds have no friends. Bravo to you. God bless you and Kurdistan

Bakhtiar
www.ekurd.or

-----Original Message-----
From: Gerald A. Honigman [mailto:honigman6@msn.com]
Sent: Saturday, January 15, 2005 2:11 PM
To: Bakh
Subject: Re: MichNews.com: Who Won’t Be Making Jokes About WMD


Thank you very much. Now take a look at this one below.

All my best...Jerry


KurdishMedia.com
Copyright © KurdishMedia.com - 1998-2003
email: info@kurdishmedia.com - www.kurdishmedia.com

----- Original Message ----

From: Bakh
To: honigman6@msn.com
Sent: Saturday, January 15, 2005 1:56 PM
Subject: MichNews.com: Who Won’t Be Making Jokes About WMD


Superb Article ....very vey timely...bravo to the writer


Bakhtiar

www.kurdishmedia.com
News and information about Kurds and Kurdistan since 4th August 1998 Print
Back



Talking Turkey About Turkey

27 May 2004

KurdishMedia.com - By Gerald A. Honigman

Posted by: Jerry on Oct 13, 05 | 2:07 pm | Profile

[0] Trackbacks   [0] Pingbacks

Check out this hot exchange about me on Middle East Info...

I hope this url opens for you folks...my dinosaur skills are legendary and I owe this all to Neal:


http://72.14.207.104/search?q=cache:9GmMVOFf1SgJ:www.middleeastinfo.org/forum/viewtopic.php%3Fp%3D2541+%22Gerald+Honigman%22&hl=en

Posted by: Jerry on Oct 13, 05 | 12:42 pm | Profile

[0] Trackbacks   [0] Pingbacks

Getting ready to visit my son at Univ. of Florida; wanted to share

from time to time, I’ll share some letters from around the world...makes it all worthwhile (and brings a few tears to the eye as well...does this sound too “corny?")


----- Original Message -----

From: xabat

To: honigman6@msn.com
Cc: letters@americandaily.com
Sent: Sunday, August 07, 2005 5:37 PM

Subject: American Daily column feedback

Dear Mr Honigman,


I am a student of International Relations in the United Kingdom and I regularly keep myself informed on the situation in Iraq and the greater middle-east. Being a Kurd from South Kurdistan (what the international community refers to as northern Iraq) and a native of the city of Halabja, I am always on the look out for articles and reports which speak out in defense of the Kurdish struggle.


I, like most Kurds, voice a conscience and non-hypocritical concern to the International community, but our effort seem to be in vain. Our concern regards the double standards of the world community in its approach to resolving the Palestinian “issue” while staying silent on the Kurdish “Problem”. I say non-hypocritical because most Kurds believe that Palestinians deserve a state of their own, as long as it doesn’t pose a threat to the ancient inhabitants of the holy land, the Jews, and the state of Israel. However I cannot say that many Arabs are so sympathetic towards our historical struggle which predates the establishment of Israel.


My message to you is that of gratitude as it keeps our hope alive. That our voice isn’t recieved with deafened ears. I am not sure of how many Kurdish people have written to thank you for your defense and help for our people, but I am sure that thanking you isn’t enough.


I once spoke to a Jewish friend about how Jews managed to endure so much oppression and then to finally establish themselves, alone, as a powerful people within global society. He told me that their hardest struggle was that of the pen, and establishing themselves within the media, so that they could communicate thier struggle, and pressure the world to act.


I say this to you because I feel that the Kurdish race needs friends such as yourself to help liberate us from our pariah status within this ever globalizing world. The struggle of the gun is something that we are more than capable of continuing, however we must learn the struggle of the pen.


When I have finished my degree I hope to contact all those people who have helped our voice grow louder through their articles, reports, documentaries, essays and so on.


I thank you sincerely on behalf of all my people.


Amanj

More...

Posted by: Jerry on Oct 13, 05 | 11:48 am | Profile

[0] Trackbacks   [0] Pingbacks

Hi from Florida! "The Most Wonderful Men Of The Year..."

Taking a break from grading student papers the other day, I went surfing and came across a neat surprise...made me blush a bit though. I thought I’d share with my new readers (and the oldtimers as well). Open the url and take a look...


http://mensnewsdaily.com/archive/l/larukirkland/2004/larukirkland011304.htm


It’s The Most Wonderful Men of the Year! - Resa LaRu Kirkland ...
William Welty is a tireless fighter, and Gerald Honigman of Israel Insider and
Jewish Xpress is intelligent, logical, and best of all, on the right side. ...
mensnewsdaily.com/archive/l/ larukirkland/2004/larukirkland011304.htm

Posted by: Jerry on Oct 13, 05 | 11:35 am | Profile

[0] Trackbacks   [0] Pingbacks

Sun Oct 09, 2005

Welcome to the blog!

Jerry will be posting items of interest and some articles.

Posted by: WebMaster on Oct 09, 05 | 3:49 pm | Profile

[0] Trackbacks   [0] Pingbacks